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		<title>Vocation to the Fullness of Orders</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Therese Ivers, JCL
Last month, I had the very great privilege of witnessing the elevation of my former canon law classmate to the episcopacy.   I thought I&#8217;d share a little of this experience before touching on the vocation of bishops.
I flew into Toronto the night before the ordination.  I had reserved a hotel close to [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;">Last month, I had the very great privilege of witnessing the elevation of my former canon law classmate to the episcopacy.   I thought I&#8217;d share a little of this experience before touching on the vocation of bishops.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I flew into Toronto the night before the ordination.  I had reserved a hotel close to the cathedral, and had come sans tickets (to the Mass) because my invitation had not arrived by mail for some unknown reason.   When I had last emailed the then Fr. Vincent, he assured me that someone would bring a ticket for me to the hotel, and so I wasn&#8217;t too worried about being without an official invitation or Mass ticket.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The next morning, I was surprised and delighted to discover that Fr. Vincent himself was delivering that ticket.  We had a great chat before he had to return to his TV interviews.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/ticket.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-325 aligncenter" style="border: 1px solid black;" title="ticket" src="http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/ticket.jpg" alt="ticket" width="374" height="299" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">After lunching with another classmate of mine who flew in from Rome, we walked to the Cathedral in the bitter cold so that I could secure my seat, and he could vest for concelebration.  There was already a long line in front of the Cathedral, and I was afraid of having to wait in the 20&#8217;s degree weather outside, but I was told that the line was for people without reserved seating tickets.  So, I found my way into the Cathedral, and squeezed into a pew towards the front.  Everyone was handed a program:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/booklet.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-326 aligncenter" style="border: 1px solid black;" title="booklet" src="http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/booklet.jpg" alt="booklet" width="474" height="676" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The procession was very long.  Hundreds of priests, deacons, and dozens of bishops flowed into the Cathedral.  See this clip of just the <a href="http://doihaveavocation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/0113_150404.mpg">bishops</a> processing in.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The ordination ceremony was very moving.  For me, there were three particular highlights.  The first was that I was happy to see Bishop Nguyen&#8217;s siblings present.  This was the first time in about 30 years that they were together.  You see, Bishop Nguyen was a refugee from Vietnam, and his siblings needed to get special visas in order to attend.  Interestingly enough, they are descendants of a Vietnamese martyr.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Another part of the ordination ceremony which fascinated me was during the consecration prayer, where the book of the Gospels is held over the person being made bishop.  Here&#8217;s a photo from the Archdiocese:</p>
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<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 477px"><img title="Gospels" src="http://archtoronto.org/ordinations/ordination/fullsize/48_fs.jpg" alt="Gospels over Bishop Nguyen" width="467" height="310" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Gospels over Bishop Nguyen</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;">Finally, one other aspect which really caught my attention were the words which accompany the giving of the ring.  &#8220;Take this ring, the seal of your fidelity. With faith and love protect the bride of God, his holy Church.&#8221;  This conferral of the ring reminded me of the special bond between the consecrated virgin (icons of the Church) and their bishop.   The words for the conferral of the ring upon a consecrated virgin are:   &#8220;Receive the ring that marks you as a bride of Christ.  Keep unstained your fidelity to your Bridegroom, that you may one day be admitted to the wedding feast of everlasting joy.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Here is a <a title="rite" href="http://www.catholic-church.org/kuwait/bishop_ballin_episcopal_ordination.htm">link </a>to more pictures from a different bishop and a short description of the Rite of Ordination to the Episcopacy.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">What is a bishop?  A bishop is a man who possesses the fullness of Orders.  He governs, sanctifies, and teaches his flock, in order to bring people to Christ.  A vocation to the episcopacy is relatively rare.  It is also a vocation that should not be on a person&#8217;s mind when discerning vocations.  This is because the only people who should discern this vocation are <strong>priests </strong>whom the Pope has asked to accept this office.  In my opinion, a priest in this position should lean towards saying &#8220;yes&#8221; out of obedience to the Holy Father unless there are serious reasons to ask to decline.  Everyone else, of course, should not waste their time on discerning this vocation because men shouldn&#8217;t presume that they are called to be a successor of the Apostles and given the heavy responsibilities that a bishop shoulders, and women simply aren&#8217;t called, period.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Please pray for our bishops, priests, and deacons.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q. Can or should a person enter a seminary without knowing for sure whether he is called to be a priest?
A.  A man can only be 100% certain that he is called to the priesthood at the moment of priestly ordination.  Up until that point, he may engage in gradual discernment.  It is sufficient that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Q. Can or should a person enter a seminary without knowing for sure whether he is called to be a priest?</strong><br />
A.  A man can only be 100% certain that he is called to the priesthood at the moment of priestly ordination.  Up until that point, he may engage in gradual discernment.  It is sufficient that a man at first discern that he is called to try out the seminary and to discern in consultation with his formators and spiritual director a step at a time from there.</p>
<p>(c) 2009 by Therese Ivers, JCL</p>
<p>www.DoIHaveAVocation.com</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q.  Is a deacon a layperson?
A.  A permanent or transitional deacon in good standing is a member of the clerical, not lay state and is thus not considered a layman.  He is a clergyman.
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A.  A permanent or transitional deacon in good standing is a member of the clerical, not lay state and is thus not considered a layman.  He is a clergyman.</p>
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		<title>Discerning to Death; Tapering One&#8217;s Discernment Towards Its Conclusion</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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by Therese Ivers, JCL
Way back in September, I was asked to help with an upcoming retreat for women discerning their vocations and who feel like they&#8217;re beating their heads on the wall &#8220;discerning to death&#8221;.  This topic really resonated with me, and as I continue to prepare for this weekend&#8217;s retreat, I am seeing [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: right;" align="right">by Therese Ivers, JCL</p>
<p>Way back in September, I was asked to help with an upcoming retreat for women discerning their vocations and who feel like they&#8217;re beating their heads on the wall &#8220;discerning to death&#8221;.  This topic really resonated with me, and as I continue to prepare for this weekend&#8217;s retreat, I am seeing more and more how although there is plenty of literature giving pieces of information about the discernment process, there is hardly anything out there that talks about how to bring it to a peaceful conclusion.  The goal of discernment is to figure out God&#8217;s will in one&#8217;s life, most particularly whether God is calling one to assume a lifelong commitment by virtue of ordination, vow, or consecration.  In theory figuring out one&#8217;s vocation sounds pretty straightforward, but plenty of folks agonize over it, and some have never reached a practical conclusion as to whether there is a state in life they should pursue.  How exactly does a person go from the beginning to the middle and then reach the end of vocational discernment?</p>
<p>Vocations and the Fairy Tale</p>
<p>Good fairy tales touch upon the deep desires of human beings.  Some are about wealth as the reward of virtue and valor, a concept that even Our Lord uses in speaking about the reward of eternal life.  Others talk about longevity and an absence from the ordinary woes of life (think immortality and the properties of risen bodies).  The majority, however, are about romantic love in which after trial, the princess and the prince happily live together ever after.  Again, this reflects the eternal betrothal between Christ and His Church&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet, it never ceases to amaze me when I am judging marriage annulment cases and we get someone under oath testifying that they thought that once they got married, everything would turn out great (despite the fact their spouse was abusively beating them daily during their courtship, they were both high on drugs most of the time, that they had two or three children before they decided to get officially hitched&#8230;) simply and solely because getting married in the Church was somehow going to magically make things different!  It gets worse when they blame people in the Church for their failed marriage (why didn&#8217;t the priest stop us?)!  How is it that the fairy tale of living happily ever after gets drummed into people&#8217;s minds when it comes to vocational choices?  I will be forever happy if I marry that person&#8230;  I will automatically be holy if I become a priest&#8230;  As soon as I slip on that habit or religious life emblem, I&#8217;m gonna be floating around in prayer&#8230;  It seems to me that good discernment starts with understanding that fairy tales are just that.  Fairy tales.</p>
<p>The process of discerning a vocation starts with the realization that the process usually takes knowledge, dedication, and work.  Knowledge is necessary to make informed choices.  How much do you as a discerner know about the vocations open to you in the Church?  It takes dedication to following the will of God.  It also takes effort, or work.</p>
<p>One can say that the time of courtship, discernment for the seminary, convent, or other form of consecrated life, is normally a time of mutual discovery.  It takes work, both on the part of the person making the decision to pursue a particular path or narrow it down to a path, and of the person(s) who admit that person into vows (think marriage, religious life, diocesan hermit life, and secular institutes), consecration (consecrated virgins) and ordination (diaconate, priesthood, and episcopacy).  One who is discerning should work not only at improving knowledge about vocations, but self-knowledge so that obstacles and fears may be evaluated and addressed.</p>
<p>The Goal</p>
<p>The final goal of vocational discernment is to make vows, be consecrated or be ordained if this should be the Lord&#8217;s will.  Yet, the immediate goal of the discerner should be to do what it takes to determine which path (if any) to which one seems to have a genuine call and make a decision to pursue it in a prudent fashion.<span> </span>That way, one can peacefully but purposefully pursue a possible call and offer oneself to a concrete person, diocese, order, or institute if one prudently and prayerfully determines they could be a fit.  Of course a person should be &#8220;open&#8221; in that the other person, diocese, order, or institute may determine that it is not their vocation to be united with you in their particular path to holiness.</p>
<p>(c) 2009 by Therese Ivers, JCL and www.DoIHaveAVocation.com.  All rights reserved.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Therese Ivers, JCL
One of our readers put in a request that we discuss the vocation of religious brothers.   As a result, I would like to share a few thoughts on the vocation to religious brotherhood.
&#8220;Are we visiting the monkeys?&#8221; My brother asked this when he was about three years old.  He [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: left;">One of our readers put in a request that we discuss the vocation of religious brothers.   As a result, I would like to share a few thoughts on the vocation to religious brotherhood.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">&#8220;Are we visiting the monkeys?&#8221; My brother asked this when he was about three years old.  He was not talking about going to the zoo.  Rather, he was referring to our practice of occasionally going to visit a local abbey on Sunday.  This particular abbey has special significance for me.  It was where I made a retreat before making my First Communion.  It was also where I met &#8220;Brother Beekeeper&#8221;.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">&#8220;Brother Beekeeper&#8221; was a monk who kept the abbey beehives.  No doubt he did much more around the abbey, but I knew him as a super nice monk who showed us what he did with bees.  I was writing an essay on beekeeping when I was about 11 years old, and since my neighborhood lacked bee hives, I went to the abbey because I remembered luscious honeycomb being served there for Sunday brunch they&#8217;d serve the abbot&#8217;s guests.  There, this wonderful monk showed us the hives.  We donned beekeeping outfits (much too big for my brother and I!) and we had a hands-on experience with beekeeping.  We even extracted honey and learned that propolis (gunk bees glue to the entrance of their hives) was good for cuts.  Brother Beekeeper even gave my family some honey we extracted and some of that propolis to take home as a souvenir of our trip.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Yes, monks were great in my books.  One of the easiest place to find them is in an abbey.  Interestingly enough, I&#8217;ve noticed that people become quite possessive of &#8220;their&#8221; monks when they live in a community blessed with a strong presence of monks.  It is quite touching to hear in different parts of the United States about &#8220;The Abbey&#8221;, which means the local abbey.  That goes for some of the more &#8220;monastic&#8221; brothers/monks.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">With respect to more active brothers, I have only occasionally bumped into them in my travels around the U.S.  They are scarce, with women religious outnumbering them oftentimes at a ratio greater than 10:1.  One of my canon law classmates in Rome was a religious brother.  He is a member of the Missionaries of Charity that Bl. Mother Teresa founded.  He would come into class in his grey and light blue clothing and he was an asset to our class.  My family has ties to some religious brothers in that some of us were educated by religious brothers in academic institutions run by them.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">In some respects, I think that many Catholics tend to categorize men&#8217;s vocations into the priesthood and married states.  There is an attitude that I have frequently encountered that if a man has a vocation, he should become a priest and not a brother.  Somehow brothers are seen as &#8220;not as good as priests&#8221; or &#8220;wanna-be-priests&#8221; that didn&#8217;t make it.  This is not the case at all!  A brother is one called by God to live in community, taking the three vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience.  His role is that of intercessory prayer before God and of service to His people.  Some brothers are more contemplative, and others are more active.  This is a lofty vocation which God calls some men to live.  This is a particular and important role in our Church.  Sadly, many are not aware of this call because if they think of vocation at all, they think in terms of the priesthood or married life.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So, who are religious brothers?  Primarily, religious brothers are men who are assiduously devoted to prayer and contemplation.  They are disciples of Christ.  Their first duty is personal holiness and to give witness to the joy of living for Christ with their prayer and penance.  Then, they may devote themselves to an apostolate in the abundance of their prayer life.  You will see brothers such as my classmate working with the poorest of the poor.  You will find others hard at work in their monasteries plowing fields or doing work to maintain themselves.  The common thread in their lives is that they are men dedicated to the hard but sublime task of taking up the yoke of Christ, both for the good of their own souls and that of the rest of us.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I happened to take a look at the diocesan website, and here are some great photos of the ordination of two young men to the diaconate and two to the priesthood.  Check them out!
CLICK HERE for the photos.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I happened to take a look at the diocesan website, and here are some great photos of the ordination of two young men to the diaconate and two to the priesthood.  Check them out!</p>
<p><a title="photos" href="http://www.diocese-of-sioux-falls.org/vocations/ordinations.aspx">CLICK HERE</a> for the photos.</p>
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		<title>Vocation to the Permanent Diaconate</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Therese Ivers
 The permanent diaconate was recently revived after centuries of disuse in the Catholic Church.  Those who are called to be permanent deacons have a somewhat unique vocation.  A permanent deacon may be either single or married.  He, like St. Stephen, is called to serve the Church in ways that assist the presbyters.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="right">by Therese Ivers</p>
<p> The permanent diaconate was recently revived after centuries of disuse in the Catholic Church.  Those who are called to be permanent deacons have a somewhat unique vocation.  A permanent deacon may be either single or married.  He, like St. Stephen, is called to serve the Church in ways that assist the presbyters.</p>
<p>A permanent deacon in the Roman Catholic Church may administer Baptism, witness marriages, give homilies, and conduct burial services.  Since he receives the sacrament of Holy Orders, he is not a layman, but a cleric.  As a cleric, he has the obligation to observe celibacy if he is unmarried, or the obligation to never remarry if he is married.</p>
<p>To become a permanent deacon, one should inquire at a diocesan vocations office.  Men who are married often must meet a certain minimum age established by the diocese.  A married man may not become a deacon without the consent of his wife.</p>
<p>Some permanent deacons have full-time ministry in the Church.  Others have full-time jobs in other fields.  Each permanent deacon lives out his commitment of ordained service to the Church in a manner suitable to his calling.</p>
<p>(c) 2008 by Therese Ivers and www.DoIHaveAVocation.com</p>
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